Comments on: Don’t play smart against `not so smart` people http://pokerbankrollblog.com/don%e2%80%99t-play-smart-against-not-so-smart-people.htm Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:29:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: JGiles http://pokerbankrollblog.com/don%e2%80%99t-play-smart-against-not-so-smart-people.htm/comment-page-1#comment-315 JGiles Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:50:39 +0000 http://pokerbankrollblog.com/?p=137#comment-315 Yeah me too. I'd rather shove with a weak hand and make my opponent ask hmiself wheteher he is willing to risk having his tournament end right now than be the one sitting on K9 asking myself that question. Yeah me too. I’d rather shove with a weak hand and make my opponent ask hmiself wheteher he is willing to risk having his tournament end right now than be the one sitting on K9 asking myself that question.

]]> By: Mette http://pokerbankrollblog.com/don%e2%80%99t-play-smart-against-not-so-smart-people.htm/comment-page-1#comment-314 Mette Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:23:44 +0000 http://pokerbankrollblog.com/?p=137#comment-314 Definitely want to be the one making the move on the bubble. Especially in SNG's where the bubble play is characterised by high and frequent blinds. In tournaments I sometimes take a more laid back approach on the bubble. Here you are still playing 10 people on each table, so the blinds are not that frequent. Definitely want to be the one making the move on the bubble. Especially in SNG’s where the bubble play is characterised by high and frequent blinds. In tournaments I sometimes take a more laid back approach on the bubble. Here you are still playing 10 people on each table, so the blinds are not that frequent.

]]> By: Mette http://pokerbankrollblog.com/don%e2%80%99t-play-smart-against-not-so-smart-people.htm/comment-page-1#comment-313 Mette Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:20:30 +0000 http://pokerbankrollblog.com/?p=137#comment-313 Sounds to me you have been doing everything right. It is the winning play to get your money in the middle when you are ahead. Simple as that. I often find myself thinking like you in these situations: "OMG how could you call that". But really we should be happy that they call, it is what will make us money in the long run. You are experiencing negative variance and it happens to everyone. During these periods it is important to maintain a sensible bankroll management strategy. Sounds to me you have been doing everything right. It is the winning play to get your money in the middle when you are ahead. Simple as that. I often find myself thinking like you in these situations: “OMG how could you call that”. But really we should be happy that they call, it is what will make us money in the long run. You are experiencing negative variance and it happens to everyone. During these periods it is important to maintain a sensible bankroll management strategy.

]]> By: JGiles http://pokerbankrollblog.com/don%e2%80%99t-play-smart-against-not-so-smart-people.htm/comment-page-1#comment-312 JGiles Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:12:58 +0000 http://pokerbankrollblog.com/?p=137#comment-312 I hear ya. Do you want to race when you're on the bubble or do you want to be the one making the move? Just trying to fire up some debate here. Anyone else have an opinion? Maybe some of your J7ers might? I hear ya. Do you want to race when you’re on the bubble or do you want to be the one making the move? Just trying to fire up some debate here. Anyone else have an opinion? Maybe some of your J7ers might?

]]> By: McTap03 http://pokerbankrollblog.com/don%e2%80%99t-play-smart-against-not-so-smart-people.htm/comment-page-1#comment-311 McTap03 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:04:04 +0000 http://pokerbankrollblog.com/?p=137#comment-311 I can't speak for buddy but, with the exception of AA or KK (less than %2 chance of that), it is a race situation. IF he feels that you are doing a Button Steal and the blinds are high enough to justify racing, then yeah it might be worth it. I know that if I was in your situation, I'd be upset and wondering why he would call such a situation, but I can also see buddy's side of the call too (and I really don't like it either). Just trying to make you think more about it. I can’t speak for buddy but, with the exception of AA or KK (less than %2 chance of that), it is a race situation. IF he feels that you are doing a Button Steal and the blinds are high enough to justify racing, then yeah it might be worth it. I know that if I was in your situation, I’d be upset and wondering why he would call such a situation, but I can also see buddy’s side of the call too (and I really don’t like it either). Just trying to make you think more about it.

]]> By: JGiles http://pokerbankrollblog.com/don%e2%80%99t-play-smart-against-not-so-smart-people.htm/comment-page-1#comment-310 JGiles Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:51:41 +0000 http://pokerbankrollblog.com/?p=137#comment-310 I just thought of another point for the guy who called my all in pre-flop with K-9. In your comment you said that he might have been justified depending on my table image. I'd have to look at the log files but from memory I wasn't super aggressive or any more aggressive than anyone else. But, regardless of my table image what is my most likely range to shove here? Even if you widen my range to any pair and ace anything he's behind on anything in that range, right? The only thing he could be hoping for is a pure bluff or a race, to my mind that’s still a bad call. Remember the gap theory that says the person who pushes all in has the advantage because in order to call you have to have a really strong hand to cover the gap. Either way, that's the kind of calls I have been getting lately and losing on. Maybe I need to check some of my stats to see if people are justifiably putting me on any 2 cards when I shove ... I just thought of another point for the guy who called my all in pre-flop with K-9. In your comment you said that he might have been justified depending on my table image. I’d have to look at the log files but from memory I wasn’t super aggressive or any more aggressive than anyone else.

But, regardless of my table image what is my most likely range to shove here? Even if you widen my range to any pair and ace anything he’s behind on anything in that range, right? The only thing he could be hoping for is a pure bluff or a race, to my mind that’s still a bad call. Remember the gap theory that says the person who pushes all in has the advantage because in order to call you have to have a really strong hand to cover the gap. Either way, that’s the kind of calls I have been getting lately and losing on. Maybe I need to check some of my stats to see if people are justifiably putting me on any 2 cards when I shove …

]]> By: JGiles http://pokerbankrollblog.com/don%e2%80%99t-play-smart-against-not-so-smart-people.htm/comment-page-1#comment-309 JGiles Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:56:03 +0000 http://pokerbankrollblog.com/?p=137#comment-309 Yeah, the thing is that I DO understand why people pay to hit flushes and straights etc. Heck, I've done it myself and I am sure will continue to do so at times. Just so happens that I have been running cold lately and I am serious when I say that most of the big hands I've lost in the past 2 weeks I have gone in ahead and made my opponent pay as much as I have to hit their card. Yeah, the thing is that I DO understand why people pay to hit flushes and straights etc. Heck, I’ve done it myself and I am sure will continue to do so at times. Just so happens that I have been running cold lately and I am serious when I say that most of the big hands I’ve lost in the past 2 weeks I have gone in ahead and made my opponent pay as much as I have to hit their card.

]]> By: McTap03 http://pokerbankrollblog.com/don%e2%80%99t-play-smart-against-not-so-smart-people.htm/comment-page-1#comment-308 McTap03 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:10:41 +0000 http://pokerbankrollblog.com/?p=137#comment-308 Tough beats man! The one thing to consider, in your 2nd example, is your table image. If you had been raising a lot, or if this seemed like a blind steal, then buddy who called was partially justified. Plus K9 is not that bad when you are either HU or 3-way. But on the other hand, 2-4 is only a hand you are hoping to hit it large and take down a big pot (you must be willing to gamble). So, risking 1.2 for a 3.6 pot (3:1 odds) are almost justifiable when chasing a flush PF (4:1). Just my opinion, but what do I know, I'm running bad as well! Tough beats man! The one thing to consider, in your 2nd example, is your table image. If you had been raising a lot, or if this seemed like a blind steal, then buddy who called was partially justified. Plus K9 is not that bad when you are either HU or 3-way. But on the other hand, 2-4 is only a hand you are hoping to hit it large and take down a big pot (you must be willing to gamble). So, risking 1.2 for a 3.6 pot (3:1 odds) are almost justifiable when chasing a flush PF (4:1). Just my opinion, but what do I know, I’m running bad as well!

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